Circumcised boys more penile issues

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9393302/

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clinical findings are much more common in these boys than previously reported in retrospective studies. The circumcised penis requires more care than the intact penis during the first 3 years of life.

Fully informed about circumcision?

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I don’t think you can be fully informed about circumcision and its “possible, maybe, for some” pros and it’s very real cons.
I do think you can be fully informed about the purpose of the foreskin and its function in infancy and in adulthood.

If you take circumcision of infants or the act of cutting infant/child genitals out of their entrenched cultures and erased the cultural prejudices most people would be horrified at what circumcision entails.

With all that said. I post the question from opinionated moms and my answer. The analogies I use are not a 100% correlation…. But I’m sure you’ll get the point”20130409-082032.jpg20130409-082040.jpg

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Babies hurting….. Poor babies

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My heart breaks… These moms mean well but they are so mistaken. Poor babies.

The original poster in the previous discussion forum screen shots wrote this:

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Just a snip? Really? **graphic pictures***

WARNING: graphic surgical photos below

I feel sick anytime some fan page on Facebook posts things like this but then I repost to help get the message out that this is NOT okay! That this practice is harmful and if no one wants to listen to that then we are inhumane ….. These are our children whom we should be protecting……

Check out this video on YouTube: http://youtu.be/bXVFFI76ff0

These are screen shots from the video above. The baby is screaming throughout the entire thing except for the very end where the baby becomes ominously and freakishly quiet…. In Shock? Shock sleep?
Poor baby.
Supposedly, this child is actually the dr’s son. I’ve heard that before but don’t quote me on it.
The baby was given a pain relief injection at the base of his penis.

Remember when looking at these pictures that this is a helpless baby who is strapped down and awake during this painful surgery
graphic pictures below

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Bleeding out/ hemorrhaging

Is circumcision just a routine harmless procedure?

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Before and after images:
http://circumcisiondecisionmaker.com/circumcision-facts/before-and-after-circumcision/

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Joseph4gi
http://joseph4gi.blogspot.com/2011/06/circumcision-is-child-abuse-picture.html?m=1

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http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death-from-circumcision.html?m=1

So freaking sad that this happens and that the statistics on infant injury or death due to circumcision are not accurately reported.

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Oh crap!

Please prayer for this little boy!!!!!!

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I really should have stayed off of fb today. My heart aches for this family.

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Oh God, the baby died. Please pray for this family in their time of grief and heartache.

“God, bring comfort and peace. Peace is your essence. Peace is your name. Bring peace to this family who has lost their precious child in death.
We come to you, God because we know that you sorrow, and are acquainted with grief. You too have endured the loss of a child. You empathize.
We can’t help but ask, “Why?” Forgive our insistence, our confusion, even our anger. We believe that you are just, and we ache to understand how this tragic death is an expression of that justice, how it expresses your love. We also know – in our minds at least – that you seldom answer the “why?” question. We press you, but on these matters you are mostly silent.
What we ask instead is “how?” How can we move forward? How can this bring us together and not tear us apart? How can we now live under the shadow of this untimely death? Answer this prayer with your comfort and guidance.
There is no way to remove the pain. The grief is real. The only sanity is to know, to believe, in a life beyond with you, when all the scales are righted and the sufferings are made good. We trust you and your promise that while this child’s life on earth is done, his life beyond has just begun. With that release we lose him and let him go into your arms, then by faith receive in return the boundless comfort of your presence. That is all, that is enough. In Jesus.”

Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/prayerplainandsimple/2011/06/a-prayer-for-a-family-grieving-the-death-of-a-child.html#ixzz2N3T3e12k

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Doublethink.us.com: circumcision

(I did not write any of this. Click link for full article)

http://doublethink.us.com/paala/2012/07/30/out-of-100-circumcised-boys/

One parenting hot button that I don’t often share my feelings about is circumcision. Why? Because it is ultimately up to the parents to decide, unless it becomes banned, like female genital cutting in Germany and other nations. Though many disagree with the statement that it is up to the parents, asserting that it is really up to the baby but since they cannot vocalize their opinion on the matter for a few more years, parents do what they want. If we disagree, well, I will feel sadness for the boy but what can I do after the fact? Refuse to speak to the parents? I don’t think that’s fair.

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But wait. Why should I care about circumcision when I don’t have a son after all, just two daughters? Because genital mutilation is an international human rights issue and stories of babies who die from the procedure or little girls or wives who were cut make me incredibly sad. Because female genital mutilation was only just banned in the US in 1996. I could have been cut if my parents desired it. Because it affects my husband and he is passionate about how terribly wrong circumcision is.

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Out of 100 circumcised boys, 100 will bleed. 100 will have been mutilated against their will.100 will question the validity as adults or at least think about it and decide if they will continue the tradition or break it when they have their own son.

Out of 100 circumcised boys, how many will die?

When will this stop?

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Have you seen the difference between an intact and a cut penis? On an infant?

I’ve never seen a side by side comparison of infants. Or adults, for that matter. Judging by the photos below, foreskin looks so natural on the boy on the left and the circumcision on the boy on the left looks so painful. Why cut them??

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below is a link to pictures of a circumcision…. Look at it and realize this torture is happening to a child
http://assets4.pinimg.com/upload/295971006731352403_q5BmioSt.jpg

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Circumcision- practice and complications

Circumcision videos if you can’t watch them don’t subject your sons to them. If you can etch them and still have it done then I feel sorry for you and sympathy for your poor sons.

I know you love your sons. There is no reason for circumcising children. Let the adult choose circumcision if it is for cultural, religious or medical reasons.

Plastibell circumcision video

http://youtu.be/5MLtxCwdMv0

Listen with volume. The dr calmly explains the procedure while the baby screams in agony and in neglect.


Another plastibell circumcision. However, this dr was very liberal with the emla cream and used it pre-surgery and during the surgery in addition to numbing shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra5t0OsmWf0&sns=em

Just because this baby wasn’t screaming doesn’t mean it wasn’t in pain later and doesn’t mean he may not have complications later. Also emla cream is not recommended for infants or genital tissue.

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Holy fhtbhthh
You can’t hear anything but you can see the baby struggling. This circumcision was done with an electrocautery device. (Foreskin cut off using a burning device)

electrocautery /elec·tro·cau·tery/ (-kaw´ter-e) an apparatus for surgical dissection and hemostasis, using heat generated by a high-voltage, high-frequency alternating current passed through an electrode.

I’m traumatized just watching this. Poor baby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMZeVULHKug&sns=em

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Gomco clamp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb39r6CvhqU&sns=em

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Mogen

http://youtu.be/KybDD3nepxA
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Female circumcision
http://youtu.be/yQHNoxZnraM

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Circumcision complications
http://newborns.stanford.edu/CircComplications.html#infection

http://www.cirp.org/library/complications/

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Below: yes, this is an extreme complication. Yes, thus can be construed as a scare tactic. However, if this was your child wouldn’t you wish some one had scared you into sparing your child this hideous catastrophe

http://www.acwf.net/male-circumcision-procedure/

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Maggots in circumcision wound
http://www.hindawi.com/crim/surgery/2012/483431/

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http://www.urology-textbook.com/circumcision.html

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Complications from infant circumcision on the now mature man
http://www.circumstitions.com/Botched1.html

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History if circumcision for the non-Jewish, non-Muslim peoples of the USA.
http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=8&id=73

Surprise! American Christians didn’t circumcise!

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Adding this April 14, 2013

Another baby hemorrhaging… Lucky to be alive and yet supposedly the risks are worth it? How is almost dying worth it? How is almost dying because of a medically unnecessary surgery being performed on a healthy infant worth it?

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Photo of circumstraint, an infant restraining device used mostly to perform infant circumcision

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http://www.quickmedical.com/olympicmedical/circumstraint/immobolizer.html

In less than 30 seconds, a nurse can immobilize the struggling infant securely in the correct position with Circumstraint. The immobilizer works on a proven principle of positive 4-point restraint. Soft wide Velcro® brand fastener straps encircle the infant’s elbows and knees, depriving him/her of leverage. The child is held safely and securely without danger of escape. Circumstraint’s comfortable contoured shape positions the infant, hips elevated, perfectly presenting the genitalia. The platform between the infant’s legs provides support for a circumcision clamp. Without pins, towels, plastic shells or the threat of strangulation, Circumstraint snugly and securely immobilizes the infant with their entire torso visible.

http://www.quickmedical.com/olympicmedical/circumstraint/immobolizer.html

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Mogen clamp

Circumcision: issues

Another man’s story on his coming to terms with his circumcision as an infant and doing stretching exercises of the shaft skin to try to grow “substitute” coverage of the glans of the penis. (Foreskin restoration techniques)

http://www.circumstraint.com/analysis_personal.html

please read his entire story by clicking the link

So my initial suspicion that something was wrong with my penis actually came before I even started researching circumcision, during puberty. I remember looking at the scar line and wondering why it was uneven, darker, and why the skin above it was a different color. I also noticed how the frenulum ended awkwardly into the scar line. I didn’t really put much thought into it then, but it is interesting to think I knew something was wrong at that age. I also remember when I would masturbate and end up causing sores, I thought I was just being too rough. I started using the technique many intact guys seem to use, thumb on top, fingers on bottom… not a fist, just the ends of the fingers. Perhaps guys are hardwired for this technique :) Anyways, this didn’t work because the skin wasn’t mobile and I was just rubbing it raw, after which I couldn’t masturbate for several days or the sores would reopen. The glans was uncomfortable to stimulate and the main stimulation was from the frenulum when pulled down. When I finally did the fisted approach it helped, but was still rough on the skin.

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below is a link to pictures of a circumcision…. Look at it and realize this torture is happening to a child
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Joseph4gi: religious freedom? Parental choice?

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http://joseph4gi.blogspot.com/2012/12/religious-freedom-and-parental-choice.html?m=1

this man is awesome click on the link above

Often, those who defend the forced circumcision of male children appeal to people’s resentment of government intervention. They would like to pretend like being a parent is a carte blanche for parents to do whatever they want with their children, and the government never intervenes.

The blunt fact of the matter is that, if being a parent justified everything one does with their children, there wouldn’t be need for child protective services.

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Circumcision

How does anyone think this is right
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You can tell by watching the baby’s stomach that he’s in pain

Obgyn instructional video

http://youtu.be/mBeCFx1D8uE

how can anyone think causing I rant genitals to bleed is a good idea

Listen to this baby scream. This is not a normal newborn cry. This is a baby in pain and being tortured

http://youtu.be/UAGNnqyNidY

Don’t divide the issue. Cutting a minor. Male or female is wrong
http://youtu.be/98f3IavuEgQ

Elephant in the hospital
http://youtu.be/Ceht-3xu84I

This is torture
http://youtu.be/vCccILprykI

Female infant circumcision
Sunat
http://youtu.be/O78On1WXz1k

Whose body whose rights?
http://youtu.be/qSAjpzpF6qM

Mario Lopez : there are certain things you compromise about but with that there is no going back
http://youtu.be/Fu_uYwDx_H8

Today’s parents are saying no
http://youtu.be/h_bEBAdhjGg

Pictures
http://youtu.be/cb9q2HyctBk
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One woman’s journey to Intactivism
http://www.savingsons.org/2012/11/my-biblical-journey-to-intactivism.html?m=1

I can’t watch any more….

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Guggie Daily- on circumcision and its harms

AMEN AMEN AMEN! This was a Facebook status update she posted today.

Facebook post from Guggie Daily:

Do you know of a page, blog, website or other resource against circumcision started by a MAN? Feel free to link it here.

Men DO complain.
They DO acknowledge their loss.
They DO want forced circumcisions to stop.

They DO want their sons to be healthy and whole.It’s not about feeling insecure, inferior or broken.It’s about acknowledging what others have done, and taking a stand to stop the cycle.

It’s not about focusing on the hurt others had in their hearts or what they passed onto the next generation.

It’s about learning to unconditionally love your partner/yourself, to the point that you can look at the facts and still feel completely loved and accepted.

Someone forcefully circumcised you and you’re fine with it? *shrugs* That’s…FINE. It really is. Lucky you, that you don’t have a scar, or discoloration, or nerve damage, or keratinization, or a bridge on the glans, or hair pulled up onto the shaft, or ejaculation issues, or painful/dry/banging sex, or a crooked penis, or meatal stenosis. Lucky you that you weren’t one of the babies who bled to death, or choked on vomit, or had a heart attack, or got an infection after surgery and died.

You’re FINE. That’s good. You don’t have to feel bad about your body or what others did to you.

If you’re FINE, then it shouldn’t bother you to 100% oppose forcing it onto anyone else. If you don’t have bad feelings or unresolved hang ups, then freely jump up to STOP forcing it onto others.

His body, his penis, his health, his life, his sexual partner, HIS CHOICE.

Her website:
http://guggiedaly.blogspot.com/?m=1

Her Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/guggiedaily?ref=stream
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To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.ELBERT HUBBARD

7 yr old in India loses his genitalia because of a botched circumcision

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/7-year-old-loses-genitals-after-circumcision-fighting-for-life/articleshow/17330245.cms

The boy, Imran, was admitted to Sania hospital in Alwar town on November 10 for circumcision. According to sources, after the operation, some equipment was used to prevent bleeding. However, electric current accidentally passed into his private parts and the boy suffered serious injury. On November 13, the boy was referred to a private hospital in Jaipur. After investigating the case, the doctors in Jaipur advised the boy’s relatives to remove his genitals as it was necessary to save his life. The operation was conducted and his genitals were removed. Three days after the operation, the boy was again admitted to Sania hospital in Alwar.

The boy is now fighting for life while his relatives are protesting outside the hospital in Alwar.
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Imran’s uncle Fakruddin Khan said that the operation was to be completed in just 30 minutes but the doctors took four hours. “Two days after the circumcision, the doctors advised us to take the boy to Jaipur. When we took the boy to Jaipur, the doctors there immediately informed us that the boy’s private parts were completely damaged and his genitals had to be removed. After operation, we tried to admit the boy in different hospitals but no hospital admitted him. The last option for us was Sania hospital. So we brought him here back after his genitals were removed in Jaipur.”

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http://www.circleaks.org/index.php?title=Documented_Severe_Complications_of_Circumcision

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One mom’s story in screen shots

This is one mom’s story about the circumcision of her son which she witnessed.
These are screen shots of her side on a discussion forum. I tried to remove all names except for when they show up in the middle of a text. (Oh I think I fixed that now)

Sorry if any are out of order or have to much chopped off. I was trying to ensure privacy.

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(These are screen shots spanning several days. I asked the mother before relaying her story. I did screen shots so that I wasn’t editing her words)

My heart breaks for this little boy. Many people may blame the parents but I blame the doctors. Until the drs stop offering and doing unnecessary circumcisions, the parents will continue to sign their little boys up for this painful and traumatizing surgery in the name of culture and medical propaganda.
The foreskin is NOT a birth defect. Anti-circ advocates are not trying to SCARE new parents, anti-circ advocates are trying to save your sons from needless harm and trauma.
We shouldn’t have to yell about death or possible penile amputations. Drs should tell parents straight up what the risks are and minimize the minuscule “potential” benefits.
Circumcised men still get STDs, still get HIV, still get UTIs and yeast infections.
Circumcised men are not impervious to penile problems, in fact circumcised men may have problems because of their circumcision.
If a circumcised man has a penile problem due to being circumcised there is no quick fix. The damage is done.
If an intact man has penile problems he has options. The man can choose. It is his body!

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Another woman’s story
http://www.thewholenetwork.org/14/post/2011/09/pressure-from-spouses-a-botched-circumcision-leads-to-regret.html

The healing process never seemed to end. As he got older, the bleeding stopped, but the wound never healed. At first, his pediatrician told us to continue to just put the Vaseline on it, continuing to treat it like we always had. It wasn’t until six months of questioning did she inspect a little better and found that, while the doctors considered him a “big” boy and claimed to have no trouble with his circumcision, they actually snipped too much off. Now, he will have a permanent scar about a half of an inch long at the tip of his penis. When it will become a scar, I have no idea (as of right now, it’s still an open wound, 14 months later.) We’re still required to keep Vaseline on it several times a week. We find blood occasionally on diapers and hear him screaming at the first sign of a dirty diaper. He runs away after his diaper comes off and holds himself sobbing. During those nights when his cut reopens, he and I both lay awake at night crying, wishing for an end.

We should have allowed him that choice, we should have waited. If we had, he wouldn’t be in pain several times a month… he would be whole with no pain, as he should be. I don’t know if this has changed my husband’s view on circumcision, and I don’t blame him for this. I blame myself for saying yes; I blame myself for signing those forms; I blame myself completely, and I will fight for tomorrow’s sons- whether they are my own, my nephews, or a stranger’s. No boy should have to go through this pain, not for his parents peace of mind.

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Another story:

Another baby hemorrhaging… Lucky to be alive and yet supposedly the risks are worth it? How is almost dying worth it? How is almost dying because of a medically unnecessary surgery being performed on a healthy infant worth it?

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Intactivist fan page on Facebook: Soggy Mamas

I found a new fan page today. It is an intactivist page (against circumcision) and t has an inconspicuous name: Soggy mamas

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Wtf I’ve heard this before but wtf

Circumcision does not protect boys from penile problems infact it can cause them…. Link below range from Penile amputation to meatal stenosis
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2769863/

Total ablation of the penis after circumcision with electrocautery: a method of management and long-term followup.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9480641/?i=5&from=/2769863/related

Reconstruction of the penis after necrosis due to circumcision

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18926238/?i=5&from=/9480641/related

Surgical management of penile amputation in children
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14501693/?i=2&from=/18926238/related

20-year experience with iatrogenic penile injury.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20851685/?i=11&from=stenosis%20circumcision

Incidence of asymptomatic meatal stenosis in children following neonatal circumcision.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9539919/?i=5&from=/20851685/related

Post circumcision meatal stenosis: 12 years’ experience

CONCLUSION: Meatal stenosis is an under recognised complication of circumcision done in neonatal and nappy aged boys. Symptomatic presentation from meatal stenosis can be very late.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17475991/?i=2&from=/16429216/related

Neonatal circumcision and penile inflammation in young boys.

The study found that rather than protecting against penile inflammation, neonatal circumcision increases the risk of penile inflammation, particularly in boys younger than 3 years old.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9393302/?i=3&from=/17475991/related

Variability in penile appearance and penile findings: a prospective study.

CONCLUSIONS: There are significant variations of appearance in circumcised boys; clinical findings are much more common in these boys than previously reported in retrospective studies. The circumcised penis requires more care than the intact penis during the first 3 years of life. Parents should be instructed to retract and clean any skin covering the glans in circumcised boys, to prevent adhesions forming and debris from accumulating. Penile inflammation (balanitis) may be more common in circumcised boys; preputial stenosis (phimosis) affects circumcised and intact boys with equal frequency. The revision of circumcision for purely cosmetic reasons should be discouraged on both medical and ethical grounds.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17806024/?i=35&from=/10893633/related

Is neonatal circumcision judicious?

CONCLUSIONS: From our study, circumcision at 5 months results in significantly fewer serious complications than circumcision in the neonatal period, irrespective of the method used. Therefore, neonatal circumcision should not be recommended.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1953977/?i=120&from=/10893633/related

[Total denudation of the penis in circumcision. Description of a plastic technique for repair of the penis].

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Moralogous: Why not circumcise

A really good blog
http://www.moralogous.com/why-not-circumcise/

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What would newborns say

http://m.theepochtimes.com/n2/health/male-circumcision-what-would-newborns-say-299128.html

Pics from south Florida intactivist unite on Facebook
James Loewen 2012- outside the AAP conference in New Orleans

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below is a link to pictures of a circumcision…. Look at it and realize this torture is happening to a child
http://assets4.pinimg.com/upload/295971006731352403_q5BmioSt.jpg

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Another baby hemorrhaging… Lucky to be alive and yet supposedly the risks are worth it? How is almost dying worth it? How is almost dying because of a medically unnecessary surgery being performed on a healthy infant worth it?

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Intact America press conference against circumcision

Men do complain!!!
A video of men and women protesting outside the AAP conference in New Orleans in Oct 2012. Men giving speeches about how circumcision harmed them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NF0oTsNp9Q&sns=em

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First do no harm: Huffington post

Ahhhh, I just posted this on my Facebook. Almost everyone I know on fb cuts or is cut. I’m sure to get a backlash from this….. Ekkkk

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/georganne-chapin/circumcision-task-force-report_b_1919711.html

By georganne chapin

Not only does the Task Force report blatantly ignore the ethical obligation of physicians to respect their patients’ autonomy and do no harm, it repeatedly calls for doctors to be paid by private insurance or Medicaid for removing healthy, functioning tissue from an infant baby boy who cannot consent to this permanent alteration to his body.
Specifically, the report says:
“Although health benefits are not great enough to recommend routine circumcision for all male newborns, the benefits of circumcision are sufficient to justify access to this procedure for families choosing it and to warrant third-party payment for circumcision of male newborns.”
The Task Force says that it’s the parents’ responsibility to decide whether their particular newborn might benefit from being circumcised, though no guidance is given on how parents should make this decision.

Nonetheless, for 2012 alone, the toll of American baby boys tied down and surgically altered will number 1 million (no baby “consents” to circumcision, as a fleeting glance at an infant circumcision on video or in the flesh will make clear). This is a human rights violation on a massive scale.
In justifying the perpetuation of infant circumcision, the AAP Task Force cites studies conducted among sexually-active adults in parts of sub-Saharan Africa with very high HIV prevalence. These studies looked at the role circumcision might play in retarding transmission of the HIV virus. They claim to have found a reduction in transmission from females to males, though not from men to women. Circumcision has not been conclusively found to reduce transmission of HIV in men who have sex with men, which together with intravenous needle-sharing, account for most cases of HIV in the United States.
Whether or not circumcision actually plays a role in reducing HIV transmission among some adults in sub-Saharan Africa has no relevance to baby boys in the United States. Babies are not sexually active and are therefore at no risk of sexually-transmitted HIV or any other venereal disease. In my opinion, these African studies are being used as after-the-fact justification for a custom that is increasingly being rejected by those who see it as violating children’s rights to bodily autonomy and their own future freedom of religion.

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Men do speak out against circumcision

Men do speak out. Photo request
https://m.facebook.com/events/418506468212559/

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http://circumcisiondiaries.blogspot.com/2012/09/men-speak-out.html?m=1&zx=5582de1789c2555e

Circumcision is just a surgery, that’s all, and on its own it’s not good or bad. It’s how we use it that is bad. If circumcision was just done when therapeutically necessary, we wouldn’t be here making all this noise. But because someone made it into a religious ritual and then someone made it into a social custom and then another person tried to justify it as prophylaxis or prevention or inherited aesthetic forced upon those who did not request it and could not remove themselves from the situation, that’s why we are here, and that’s why we are not leaving and shutting up. Because it’s not fair for those who are coming after us, to go through what we went. To grow up and then one day find out in the most strange way that a part of their body was discarded with the permission (or not) from their parents, as if it was some sort of biological waste. It’s not fair for them.

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