Modern female circumcision aka vaginal rejuvenation

warning,apology: I came across the below article by accident (reading news fuse app) and I’m tired so my comments posted before the link may not be fluid or well written

Below is an article about vaginal rejuvenation surgery. I’ve bolded several paragraphs. Its funny several paragraphs emphasize the risks and the unnecessariness of it all, (because they are women)… The same people promote male circumcision although the risks can be the same.
A woman has to fill out a psych report in order to get the surgery… But for a male baby the parents can randomly decide without any reason or for any reason to cut his penis… The boy has to live with the consequences… All the parents do is check a box and sign their name.
Doesn’t seem right……
Boys should have the same benefit of waiting until they are an adult to sign up for cosmetic surgery.

excerpts below

Women Are ‘Duped’ in Quest for Perfect Vagina, Says Doctor
August 29, 2012

Melanie Berliet, young, single and without children, arrived at a New York City medical clinic seeking a “complimentary consultation” for the latest in cosmetic surgery — vaginal rejuvenation.

The 30-year-old writer posed as a patient in search of fodder for a story, and got an education in how doctors can tighten flabby tissue in a vaginoplasty, cut back the inner and outer lips of the labia and sometimes open the clitoral hood.

Berliet wrote about her experience in an article called “Designer Parts,” for the Atlantic magazine.

Corrective gynecological surgery has been available for decades to help women with incontinence or sagging of the vaginal canal after childbirth.


“It’s really concerning, because [the trend] is really reaching younger ages, in their teens,” Iglesia said. “I heard of a mother taking in a 16-year-old and 11-year-old wanting to get it done. It’s just not right.” In an editorial in the June issue of the journal Obstetrics and Gynecology, Iglesia said women were being “misled or confused about what is ‘normal.'”

There are great variations of “normal,” Iglesia said. “Labia can be anywhere from 5 millimeters to 5 centimeters.”

She said that Internet pornography and removing pubic hair through Brazilian waxing or shaving give women unrealistic expectations about their bodies — or what they believe men like or want — and goes as far as to compare vaginal rejuvenation procedures to “new age female circumcision.”

In 2007, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists warned about vaginoplasties and labiaplasties that were not medically indicated, questioning their safety and effectiveness.

The biggest risks in such procedures are infection, altered sensation, dyspareunia (painful contractions of the vagina), adhesions and scarring, according to ACOG, which says women need to be informed about the lack of data on these procedures and their “potential complications.”

Iglesia said she had done reversal procedures for women whose vaginoplasties were so tight, they had pain during sex.

Others had labiaplasty that left them with labia that “looked like Swiss cheese,” Iglesia said. Sometimes the nerves around the clitoris were damaged.

Online forums reveal numerous accounts of “botched” surgeries.

“Six weeks ago a surgeon … sewed my perineum/labia up over the opening to my vagina, covering it like a biological chastity belt,” wrote one woman on the site Real Self. “I can’t have sex or a gyn exam and am in pain from the pulling/tearing at that spot. … She tore the right labia minora and made it one third the size of left labia minora, but I’m not correcting that — too painful.”

Iglesia believes women have been “duped” by an entire culture that is oversexualized.

“Everyone sees ‘Sex in the City’ and are getting their public hair removed and looking down there,” she said. “They are watching Internet porn and looking at Playboy and Penthouse with a lot of touched up and airbrushed pictures.”

With pubic waxing and grooming, younger women are “comparing,” she said. “They feel like they are abnormal.”



Stern told that he requires all his patients to undergo psychological testing before he will perform vaginal rejuvenation procedures, and he often turns women away, particularly if their husbands or partners are pressuring them to have the surgery.

All Stern’s patients must sign a three-page consent form that explains the potential risks and benefits of vaginoplasty and labiaplasty.
“I am not guaranteeing increased sexual response,” he said. “If a woman perceives her labia and or vagina as improved from vaginal cosmetic surgery, it can affect her quality of life and self-esteem, and therefore she may experience increased female sexual response.”

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and Iglesia’s biggest criticism of vaginal rejuvenation is the absence of blind studies, the scientific gold standard that requires the subject or the investigator (or both) is unaware of which subjects are in the experimental or control groups.

Stern said he had developed his own techniques that his studies have found to be safe. He acknowledged, though, that his studies were “retroactive” — he surveyed patients after he’d treated them.

Berliet, the writer who went undercover to investigate vaginal rejuvenation for the Atlantic, said the doctor she saw was upfront about the risks and potential rewards of vaginal rejuvenation.

She doesn’t fault the medical profession as much as a society that places more value on cosmetic surgery than sex education.

Berliet cited an August 2011 study in the British Journal of Medicine that found 40 percent of women who’d asked about genital reconstruction “reported the desire to go through with it even after being informed that their labias were normal.”

“Young girls should know what anatomy looks like,” said Berliet. “Male genitals just hang out and you can sense a variation in what a penis looks like. But girls’ are tucked between their legs, and they assume the worst in the body part.

“We are a culture that embraces plastic surgery in other ways to improve ourselves,” she said. “It’s scary.”



Cosmetic surgery, especially procedures involving women’s genitalia, is a form of gender violence. According to the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery, almost 950,000 women underwent cosmetic surgery in 2008 in the U.S., the most popular being breast augmentation. Women go through these procedures by choice in order to conform to a standard of beauty and attractiveness. Bigger breast and designer vaginas. The recovery time for a vaginal rejuvenation is 6-10 weeks. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has come out against all cosmetic vaginal surgeries, saying that there is not enough evidence to support the safety of the procedures and there is no medical reason to perform them. As with all cosmetic surgeries, these carry the risk of complications and death.


Another proponent of FGC, Dr. Richard Shweder, says that Westerners conveniently ignore the fact that they produce their own kinds of genital mutilation in the form of the vaginal rejuvenation of women and circumcision for boys. Shweder says that, “‘First World’ feminist issues and political correctness and activism have triumphed over the critical assessment of evidence.” Ahmadu also has an essay called “Ain’t I a woman too?: challenging myths of sexual dysfunction in circumcised women”, where she insists that women who have undergone FGC still experience orgasm and a great deal of sexual pleasure.




so it’s not good for a woman to want vaginal rejuvenation because she should love herself as she is… But it’s ok to cut baby boys because some women prefer a cut penis over a natural one or he may get teased later, or to look like daddy???
Would you allow your minor daughter to choose vaginal surgery? Labiaplasty? If you wouldn’t let your minor underaged CONSENTING daughter have needless genital surgery, why would you FORCE it on your son by circumcising him shortly after birth????
It is called cultural conditioning! Look beyond your family and the people around you. Look at the children and realized just because one has a penis and one has a vagina/vulva doesn’t mean one deserves protection and one deserves the knife.


If you’re not convinced that there’s no valid reason to circumcise your son, you probably don’t see a comparison to pinky-finger removal. The problem here is again simply one of perspective: one about what we are and aren’t used to. Circumcision has been with us, relatively unquestioned, for so long that we’re accustomed to it. The removal of a pinky finger, however, is new and strange and offensive. How likely is it that the CDC, for example, would consider recommending the routine surgical removal of part of a baby’s penis for dubious reasons if we weren’t already accustomed to the practice? I would guess that it’s less likely than an unthinkable recommendation of routine mastectomies.
Most telling is our disgust toward female circumcision. This is an honest reaction that reveals our tolerance of male circumcision to be dishonest. What we’re used to has obscured our perspective and clouded our judgment. Considering the similarities between the relatively unquestioned practice of circumcision and its pinky-finger counterpart (including pain and whatever other trauma is inflicted on the infant), it is alarming that we don’t ask important questions often and loudly enough, and, worse, that our doctors, whom we rely on for advice in these matters, aren’t stressing often enough that there are not worthy reasons for the infant penis to be the only body part exempt from protection under the law.

Occam’s Razor
To close, I offer two quick and final points. First, you’ve likely heard of the philosophical principle known as Occam’s razor, which is the idea that the simplest theory or paradigm is best. In other words, don’t complicate things unless there’s a good reason. Occam’s razor, ironically enough, tells us to drop the razorlike tool and cease cutting off the foreskin—to leave our baby boy the way he was when he came out of the womb.
Second, we are fortunate to be able to play it safe, meet in the middle, and have it to some degree both ways. If you keep it simple and leave your boy intact, he will grow into a mature adult, able to freely weigh the pros and cons, and then choose for himself whether he wants to have his foreskin removed.
I can anticipate the counterargument here: this is not playing it safe, not meeting in the middle, and not having it both ways, because it’s extremely unlikely—unthinkable, even—that a young man would see a good reason to have part of his penis cut off. Exactly. And what does that tell us?




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